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Propria persona and Sui Juris or Slave as Pro Se

Pro Se is not an exclusive Title, (Black's 5th ed) it has levies, taxes and  debt  attached to it  but a Sovereign Citizen cannot be taxed, levied and indebted so the system has invented the Straw Man as that ,"Fiction of law"  (Blacks 5th ed) that represents your share of the imposed National Debt. he and all of his holdings are collateral for that debt but he is only an "Fiction of Law" and has no body

The Straw Man cannot, stand in your place, represent, because you are Sovereign in your Sovereign Space, where you stand arms length all around.. because you by the Constitution are a Sovereign Citizen,King/Queen ..and Pro Se is not Sovereignand he has no body.

But you can stand in his place he's a Straw Man and there is nobody standing there in his place until you stand in his place which you can do because there is no one standing there and then  by that " fiction of law " you assume the identity of and give Body to the Straw Man.  And you assume the responsibilities and accept  the pains and penalties that can be imposed on a Straw Man, a Slaveand he is never in a court of law, he is a slave and is collateral for the whole debt so he is in Administrative Court which is conducted by Administrative Rules and is not a Court of Law.. and you want to stand in his place??? And that's Pro Se and that's how they take the Kids the Straw Man is Collateral and his Kids are Chattle and Commodities ( Some one ask whose words were it is that defines Juvenile Court as  a Qusi Judicial Administrative Court"It's in the Child Protection" Agencies Protocol ( Training manuals they also call Children Commodities )

 It works that way with a Attorney too he cannot represent you because you are you and he cannot stand in your place because you are standing there but his job is to Attorn, return to the State, because of his Oath to the BAR and to the (Queen) but he can let you assume the identity of the Straw Man then you are both representing the Straw Man but you think he/she is representing you and by this Deceit you accept the pains and penalties impose on a " Fiction of Law " the Straw Man given  your Body body by you, A fictional Body created by : Representations of persons, "A fiction of law " as defined by, Black's law Dictionary 5th ed

 I haven't much to say about the definitions, Propria persona and Sui Juris they speak for themselves they are both Sovereign because they have exclusive Title have unencumbered Title to your persona by either Title They speak for themselves and any one who believes in their personal Sovereignty should be one or the other the only other choice is Slave..